jsheard an hour ago

Since the commit history is public, there's a much easier way to tell that AI had a hand in writing that list.

https://github.com/a16z-infra/reading-list/commit/93bc3abb04...

> opus descriptions in cursor, raw

  • mtlynch 29 minutes ago

    That version is more sensible. Opus generated:

    > Warning: his endings are notoriously abrupt, like a segfault in the middle of your favorite function.

    In commit e4d022[0], the wording changed to:

    > Fair warning: most of these books famously don't have endings (they literally stop mid-sentence during a normal plot arc).

    It's unclear what led to that change, as the commit message is just "stephenson".

    It went through a few more minor edits to get to what's currently published.

    https://github.com/a16z-infra/reading-list/commit/e4d022d592...

    • ilikehurdles 5 minutes ago

      matt-bornstein's commits in that repo do often start off with ai-generated descriptions which he then edits down. there are notes on some commits that say things like "AI GENERATED NEED TO EDIT". the other contributors' changes don't have these tells.

      while it should come as no surprise to have software written by llms, if these books are in fact just picked by llms then what's the point of this list?

  • andy99 an hour ago

       Stephenson doesn't just write sci-fi, he writes operating manuals for the future. His books predicted cryptocurrency, the metaverse, and distributed computing before most of us knew what TCP/IP stood for. Warning: his endings are notoriously abrupt, like a segfault in the middle of your favorite function.
    
    This really is a study in AI slop. At least they had the good sense to change it.
    • abecedarius an hour ago

      When they changed it is also when they misspelled his name. Opus got it right. I was surprised Stephenson took the misspelling as an AI tell.

    • nakamoto_damacy an hour ago

      How did his books PREDICT crypto when we had eCash way before any of his books? SMH.

      • agentultra 40 minutes ago

        Most of his books are also dystopias, not operating manuals.

        • ndiddy 6 minutes ago

          a16z seems to view turning society into a dystopia as a goal, so that makes sense. Their portfolio includes:

          - DoubleSpeed, a bot farm as a service provider, allowing customers to orchestrate social media activity across thousands of fake accounts to create artificial consensus on the topic of their choice. Never pay a human again!

          - Cheddr, the TikTok of sports gambling, whose differentiating feature is allowing users under 21.

          - Coverd, a new type of credit card where you can wipe off bills by placing bets on your favorite gambling games in their app. No VPN required!

        • rainsford 15 minutes ago

          Can A16Z tell the different? Insert that meme "At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus, from the classic sci-fi novel, Don't Create the Torment Nexus".

        • cmrdporcupine 15 minutes ago

          a16z and others like them never met a dystopian warning they didn't interpret as a titillating invitation to an uncomfortably exciting and inevitable future!

dandellion 8 minutes ago

He has my admiration, I wouldn't have been able to write an article like this and resist the urge to end it mid

simianparrot an hour ago

Keep this in mind if you _ever_ feel tempted to take A16Z seriously. Absolute charlatans and clowns.

  • hobofan 36 minutes ago

    Software is eating the world.

    AI is eating the VCs.

    • kibwen 8 minutes ago

      We know that being a billionaire surrounded by yes-men all day causes brain damage, and we know that being on social media living in a delusion bubble all day causes brain damage, so really they were already cooked even before signing what was left of their brains over to the LLMs.

kylecazar 3 hours ago

It would have been really great to end the blog post mid-sentence.

  • pstoll 15 minutes ago

    Lol I was hoping for that too

  • fnord77 an hour ago

    I don't have any original ideas

  • ruined 2 hours ago

    um, it literally does

    • jeremyjh an hour ago

      I'm really curious whats going on here. Is this a joke? Are you ok?

      • ruined an hour ago

        did you even read the article??

        • dundarious an hour ago

          I don't appreciate these kinds of simple one-line referential jokes on HN, but your joke was to emulate perfectly the central issue of TFA, so I do agree that it brings into question who did and who did not read the article -- I know you read it.

      • nchmy an hour ago

        [flagged]

        • latexr an hour ago

          E-mail the staff (link in the footer). Either dang or tomhow will reply, and they take these seriously and can take action.

    • nchmy 2 hours ago

      no,it quite literally doesnt...

      • dundarious an hour ago

        The central complaint of TFA is the exact same as what ruined is doing. It is very obviously a joke. Not something I appreciate on HN, but still.

        • andy99 6 minutes ago

          I think it was a good enough joke or witty remark grounded in the crux of the article that it’s worth it. And it’s certainly interesting to see the “whoosh” past many of the commenters

      • ruined an hour ago

        a remarkable assertion from nchmy

warpspin 17 minutes ago

Wished he'd spend as much as effort on writing endings for his books as on that blog post.

Sorry. Just grumpy, cause I always love the first 80% of his books and then they somehow... just disintegrate.

cm2012 9 minutes ago

The most likely option of all was the article was written without that much effort by a random employee. This is a lot of work over one throwaway sentence lol.

hoistbypetard 2 hours ago

All of the descriptions on that reading list give me strong LLM vibes. Which, given the source, seems like it should be expected. This post could have stopped after hypothesis 1.

  • jeremyjh an hour ago

    I agree it is not really controversial, I don't think any other explanation is credible. And it really calls into question their assertion that at least one person there has read every book on the list. They love these books, yet no one there cared enough to write a few sentences about them?

    • zurfer 14 minutes ago

      well, maybe no one felt informed enough to write this, so it was outsourced to the llm (imposter syndrom) or it was pure laziness.

d_burfoot 3 hours ago

Hypothesis C: failure of human memory. A human read Stephenson's book(s) 20 years ago, remembers that the endings were a bit unsatisfying. The same human also read some other book many years ago, which ends mid-sentence. In that person's mind, the two are conflated.

  • eesmith an hour ago

    Hypothesis D-for-Delany: The human thought Stephenson wrote Dhalgren.

    "Waiting here, away from the terrifying weaponry, out of the halls of vapor and light, beyond holland into the hills, I have come to"

  • boesboes 3 hours ago

    Hypothesis A is much more likely if you ask me

    • shortrounddev2 3 hours ago

      It's A16Z, they definitely had an LLM recommend a set of books that nobody there has actually ever read. Except maybe Snowcrash

chucksmash 2 hours ago

Stephenson? Ah yes, the deservedly obscure dadaist prose stylist who thought it was cool to stop his books mid-sentence.

  • andrelaszlo an hour ago

    > A hundred years from now, thanks to the workings of the Inhuman Centipede, I’m known as a deservedly obscure dadaist prose stylist who thought it was cool to stop his books mid-sentence.

    • gpderetta 40 minutes ago

      I love the "Inhuman Centipede" definition for AI. Is that a Stephenson original or he is quoting existing usage.

genghisjahn 42 minutes ago

Stephenson’s endings are fine.

dude250711 an hour ago

It's the same guys who get impressed if you are playing a video game while talking to them.

Waterluvian an hour ago

i didn’t want to be bothered with the shift key so i stopped using it and called it culture. but now i don’t even have to finish my

3rodents 2 hours ago

“A hundred years from now, thanks to the workings of the Inhuman Centipede, I’m known as a deservedly obscure dadaist prose stylist who thought it was cool to stop his books mid-sentence.”

is “Inhuman Centipede” to describe the slop-eating-its-own-tale future we all dread an established term, or an invention of the author? I hope it becomes the term we all use, like slop and clanker.

For those of us writing original words that are consumed by LLMs without our consent, at least we get to be the front of the Inhuman Centipede.

readams 3 hours ago

In these modern times of ours, the word literally has taken on a new meaning, which is "not literally but with emphasis." This seems like the most likely explanation.

  • EdwardCoffin 2 hours ago

    Even if that's the intended meaning of literally, it is still a reckless exaggeration. I'm pretty sure that Stephenson's endings are no more abrupt than some of Shakespeare's (check out Hamlet and Macbeth) or some of Frank Herbert's (see Dune and Children of Dune), and I never hear anyone go out of their way to describe either of them as being unable to write endings.

    • hnmullany an hour ago

      Everything from Stephenson after Anathem is an unremitting slog. He needs an editor who won't back down from telling him he needs to cut a third of his pages.

      • jeremyjh an hour ago

        Reamde and Fall are quite readable. But what does this have to do with endings?

    • disgruntledphd2 2 hours ago

      > some of Frank Herbert's (see Dune and Children of Dune),

      I mean, Dune does in fact end mid-story, which is probably worse.

      • jeremyjh 2 hours ago

        No, no it doesn't. Are you talking about the recent movies that split the first novel into two movies? The novel Dune ends after Paul defeats his enemies and becomes emperor.

        • disgruntledphd2 an hour ago

          The Dune series has six novels, the final one is Chapter House Dune, which does in fact end mid story.

          I know this because I read them in the 90s and didn't realise that Frank Herbert was dead for quite some time after reading Chapter House.

          • jeremyjh an hour ago

            I know that, I've read them too. In the SP, and in this thread we're discussing endings to novels. No one is complaining about a series that isn't finished due to the author's death.

  • howenterprisey 2 hours ago

    I interpret the sense of "literally" here in the opposite way, i.e. without it the sentence may be taken to mean that the books metaphorically stop mid-sentence, but with it, they're saying that it's non-metaphorical and they really do. It would be bizarre wording otherwise.

  • layer8 2 hours ago

    “Literally” is commonly used as emphasis, but not as hyperbole. So it’s still a misleading misrepresentation just the same.

  • MangoToupe 2 hours ago

    Hard to believe this when it's such a cut and dry claim about text. What does exaggeration even imply in that context?

martythemaniak 27 minutes ago

Silicon Valley is largely illiterate when it comes to fiction and literature. It is generally pretty hard to find people who read or think about anything other than a small set of standardized scifi, so even if this wasn't ai slop, it would still be pretty bad.

uxp100 2 hours ago

Could be some very dry humor? Confused LLM seems most likely though.